My junior child was caught with internet plagiarism.( copy and paste)But the website that the teacher found out WAS NOT the website my child does the reseach.What is going on here?
Please help.
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Please help.
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Hi twinkiekid, and welcome to GreatSchools Parent Community.
I have a son in college and a daughter in third grade. If it weren't for my background in publishing, my son could have been a victim of the same type of accusations. Sadly, many schools don't even do term papers.
This is a generation that thinks that downloading music isn't a big deal and there are books to download for free online. You're right that it doesn't take a college degree to understand plagiarism, but I find *very* little time spent on how to cite properly.
With so many sites not crediting their sources, things like intellectual property and copyright laws seem very vague to a teen.
While I am a stickler for character and accountability, I've seen this first hand too often to assume there was malicious intent.
I have a son in college and a daughter in third grade. If it weren't for my background in publishing, my son could have been a victim of the same type of accusations. Sadly, many schools don't even do term papers.
This is a generation that thinks that downloading music isn't a big deal and there are books to download for free online. You're right that it doesn't take a college degree to understand plagiarism, but I find *very* little time spent on how to cite properly.
With so many sites not crediting their sources, things like intellectual property and copyright laws seem very vague to a teen.
While I am a stickler for character and accountability, I've seen this first hand too often to assume there was malicious intent.
Plagiarism is not citing the source if you take another author's ideas. It can also be copying, word for word, what the author wrote. What a child should do, is read the information, LEARN from what they read and then put it in their own words. If it is necessary, to say, quote a line from Shakespeare, then, please, note that it was William that said it first. BTW, I do not have a college degree and I learned this in High School. Why don't they teach basic writing skills anymore?
My child and I need the Honor Council members with human brain to think than luck.This is a Biography paper with facts.How much can you change?
Anyway,this appeal will be review as anonymous study case for the council members..and no overturned after their ruling.This is so unfair.The school and teachers have depend too much on this technology that their brain is getting so small..they forgot how to think.This is a very painful and dissappointed path that we are going through...where is justice?
Anyway,this appeal will be review as anonymous study case for the council members..and no overturned after their ruling.This is so unfair.The school and teachers have depend too much on this technology that their brain is getting so small..they forgot how to think.This is a very painful and dissappointed path that we are going through...where is justice?
Schools and teachers are on quite a witchhunt these days for plagiarism and it's yet another aspect of modern education that doesn't serve children or their learning very well. Students can inadvertantly plagiarize without intending to and the definiton of plagiarism is hard to understand. School is supposed to be about learning and most students are still learning what the confusing word of plagiarism really means yet schools will act like students supposedly guilty of it are arch criminals.
When I asked a student to tell me once what research meant to him he said, "You want me to take good writing and rewrite it in my own words. So that means to take good writing and turn it into bad writing. That makes no sense. That's what research means to me."
And he was right. It's truly impossible to take every sentence and rewrite it in your own words. But few teachers seem to realize that and many teachers sadly seem to love to cry 'plagiarism'.
If his school was going to have an intelligent response to this, they'd ask him to redo the paper and have done with it. In no other court of law in the country would your son be denied a chance to speak and defend himself or be denied a trial. Only in the court of school does such a thing happen and I'd be upset about this too.
Much good luck and I hope this works out.
When I asked a student to tell me once what research meant to him he said, "You want me to take good writing and rewrite it in my own words. So that means to take good writing and turn it into bad writing. That makes no sense. That's what research means to me."
And he was right. It's truly impossible to take every sentence and rewrite it in your own words. But few teachers seem to realize that and many teachers sadly seem to love to cry 'plagiarism'.
If his school was going to have an intelligent response to this, they'd ask him to redo the paper and have done with it. In no other court of law in the country would your son be denied a chance to speak and defend himself or be denied a trial. Only in the court of school does such a thing happen and I'd be upset about this too.
Much good luck and I hope this works out.
It says"what you know might kill you.But I say"what you don't know is going to distroy you as long as you live."."I did not want this to stay in my teen school record.I am in the progress of filing the appeal.But you know it happen,sometime you have to pay a price for other who is making an unjust decision.I felt helpless for my teen...it is a fancy name to call" plagiarism"...bottom line "cheating "my teen just shook his head in his helpless mind and his is very sad.
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