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mothersblessed June 1, 2009

help my daughter is depressed, hates school and is labled a bad Kid!

mothersblessed
My kindergatener daughter started out happy and GUNG-HO! But into the second semester she started absorbing other classmates( inappropiate behavior) and feeling overwhelmed and crying a lot when it was homework-time. I requsted a meeting from the teacher, principle, special ed instructor, and the child evaluation instructor ( they refused to contact the child Psychologist. " It wasn't in the budget and took too much work to have them attend the meeting, they said"! To go on the meeting was fruitless and I was told that because my daughter did not test accademically poor, so they wouldn't test her for any disabilities. I also asked to see if she may be gifted or bored they denied that also! I was told that she is just un-socialized and perhaps just likes to talk with her peers; as well as suggesting that because she is an only child that she may be loney. In the months to follow my daughter was suspended from class trips,came home w/ 15 pgs.of incmplt. wk.& is singled out daily!
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andrummond
andrummond July 3, 2009
It sounds like your child went to the same school as my children. My 6 year old would come crying that the kids were picking on her because she's so little and she would complain that her teacher wasn't teaching them anything and they were playing to much and she begged all year to go to a different school.
SoCalGal
SoCalGal June 8, 2009
Sorry to take so long in posting -- this is really, really important and something I've just recently learned. Girls with Aspergers often manifest in these ways. Girls can be very, very bright and have difficulties understanding non-verbal communication -- causing them many, many difficulties.

Put your request for an evaluation in writing -- they have to do it even if she's getting good grades. Specifically note that you would like them to include an ADOS in the evaluation.

I'm happy to share more if you send me a private message.
Go and visit in the classroom - at first your daughter and other children may be distracted by your presence but if you sit quietly in the back of the room, the normal activity picks up again and they forget you're there.
And then watch and see what you see - see what happens when the teacher passes out worksheets. See if your daughter is being given the opportunity to work quietly of if they have her sitting near 'Chatty Cathy' or a neighbor who keeps tapping his pencil and distracting your daughter from her work.
Regardless of whether your dear daughter is gifted or has an underlying learning difference, most schools don't have the solution to many of the problems they face and it falls to us as parents to figure it out.
How many children are there in your daughter's class? Is it a quiet place to work or is it bedlam? Is the work she's given to do reasonable or do they pile it on so much that she grows discouraged?
Without being in the classroom and observing, it's hard to know what's making it hard for her to get her work done.
Good luck.
dhfl143
dhfl143 June 1, 2009
I would also like to take this opportunity to invite you to the Learning and Attention Difficulties Group located at Great School:

community.greatschools.net/groups/11554

Have any screening been performed in the process of RTI? How is her work academically? Why is she crying at homework time? Could it be because she finds it difficult to sit still and concentrate or perhaps she is having difficulty doing the work requested? Or do you think there is something else going on?

Checked out GS Kindergarten page found here:
www.greatschools.net/elementary-school/

You can also sign up for the Kindergarten newsletter to see if your child is on track on the same page.

What state are you in -- depending on the state some do have programs for gifted children. Start by finding out whether or not your state has programs for children identified as gifted. If your state has gifted programs, you can IN WRITING request that you child be evaluated for either learning disabilities and/or being gifted. Check out the Educational Laws and Violations Group mentioned by healthy and/or WrightsLaw for letter suggestions. When you put your requests in writing and ask that they respond in writing. Leave a paper trail -- you may need it for future reference.

Is it only at school that she is experiencing these issues? How about other social settings or at home? It is a process of elimination and trying to isolate what is truly going on? Once you isolate the problem, it can be addressed. Many of us have walked in your shoes. Take heart you are already taking proactive steps to address your concerns and knowledge is power. As, healthy mentioned it could be as simple as personality conflict and next year will improve.

In addition, you may want to check out this screening tool:

www.getreadytoread.org/

Best wishes.

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healthy11
healthy11 June 1, 2009
Hi. Reading your post reminded me of things my son's kindergarten teacher used to say and do....He was home sick for 4 days, and when I went to ask for any "work" he had missed, she gave me volumes of worksheets...We tried to complete them all over a weekend, and returned them the following Monday, only to have the teacher send some back home the next day, saying, "These dot-to-dot pages were supposed to be colored, too. You know his fine motor skills are weak and he needs practice." Later, she made him print his name 25 times, because he forgot to put it on a paper.... She referred to him as "a hyperactive underachiever" (at the ripe old age of 6) saying that she was sure he could do the work if he wanted to, he was just unwilling....We, too, asked the school to test him for possible learning problems, and were told "No, students have to be at least two years behind, and your son is obviously bright..."

To fast forward, we ended up having our son evaluated privately, and he was found to be highly gifted, along with having ADHD and dyslexia and dysgraphia (trouble reading and writing.) The term for kids like that is "2e" or "twice exceptional" and if that ends up describing your daughter, feel free to look at the resources I've compiled over the years at community.greatschools.net/groups/16042.

For now, you need to figure out what's really going on with your daughter. Did your daughter attend preschool, and did teachers express any concerns at that time? Maybe it's nothing other than a personality conflict with the current teacher....If so, the good news is that the year is almost over. If problems continue, you do have legal rights to have the school evaluate your child...in addition to the wrightslaw site that hockeymum mentioned, please join and post in Greatschools Educational Laws and Violations Group at community.greatschools.net/groups/77570
hockeymum
hockeymum June 1, 2009
Is she still in Kindergarten? If you hadn't mentioned Kindergarten I would have sworn I was reading about a teenager. 15 pages incomplete work in kindergarten?
For starters check out www.wrightslaw.com/
Parents, educators, advocates, and attorneys come to Wrightslaw for accurate, reliable information about special education law, education law, and advocacy for children with disabilities.
Also please read Reviving Ophelia
www.amazon.ca/Reviving-Ophelia-Mary-Pipher/dp/1594481881
Your daugher is not in the age group described in the book yet her problems sound like many of the stories told in it.
says Mary Pipher, "girls become 'female impersonators' who fit their whole selves into small, crowded spaces." Many lose spark, interest, and even IQ points as a "girl-poisoning" society forces a choice between being shunned for staying true to oneself and struggling to stay within a narrow definition of female. Pipher's alarming tales of a generation swamped by pain may be partly informed by her role as a therapist who sees troubled children and teens, but her sketch of a tougher, more menacing world for girls often hits the mark. She offers some prescriptions for changing society and helping girls resist"

I'm really sorry the school isn't supporting you, but don't give up. There are many parents going through the same problems here.

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