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Cubanabred October 16, 2008

My 13yr old son is being penalized for defending himself after walking away from a kid teasing him

Cubanabred
The kids had gotten off the bus and words were exchanged and there was pushing back and forth by both kids. My son walked away and headed on the pathway home. The other kid who lives the opposite direction, ran behind my son calling him names and then kicking him. My son retaliated, the kid ended up w/a bloody nose. The boy's parents called police, wanted to press charges. I don't believe mine did anything wrong but they both now have to see the school's resource officer, which I am ok with, but how do I explain to my son why he is being punished for what he didnt start but defended himself for?
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debrasuefitzge
debrasuefitzge November 25, 2008
i agree with msowder,on this topic.
AdvocacyMom
AdvocacyMom November 15, 2008
My opinion is not politically correct, but I'll share it anyway ... Tell your son what I told mine recently, in a similar situation:

"It's better to find a way to avoid physical aggression. You don't want to lower yourself to the bully's level. HOWEVER, if you are confronted with physcial force (don't YOU ever be the one to strike first!) and there is no adult or anyone else to help, and you've tried everything else you could reasonably try ... use only as much physcial force in response as you need to get the job done. Once the bully stops, YOU stop and walk away. Tell an adult what as soon as possible and let them take it from there."

Frankly, if I were you, I would also immediately file charges of assault and battery against the bully with the police, and follow up with the school as well. Don't let your son become further victimized! Bullies often (but not always) learn to be bullies from behaviors modeled by their own parents, so don't expect those parents to respond reasonably. Don't expect the school staff to be much help, either, but INSIST UPON IT ANYWAY! Be clear with them, the bully's parents, and the police that your son was bullied without provocation, that he was defending himself from assault and battery (which schools don't allow, but which is a Constitutional 2nd Amendment right, nonetheless),and that you will stand your ground and behind your son to the full extent of the law. Also, be clear that you expect no further bullying of your son from this or any OTHER kid, or there will be He** to pay!

My prayers and best wishes for your son and you ... I hope all goes well.
debrasuefitzge
debrasuefitzge November 12, 2008
i agree with deborahhamilto,if a child tells a parent they are being bullied then the parent should go to the school and find out whats going on.when my daughter came home and had a black eye and said this girl was bullying her i went right to the school and demanded action to be taking for this behavier.and now this girl doesnt bother my girl anymore.
DeborahHamilto
DeborahHamilto November 12, 2008
I feel that if anybody child come home and let their parents know that they are being bullied at school the parents should go to the school and talk with the teachers and school staff and get the bully parents and have a meeting.if nothing get solve or nobody won't to listen then it's time to take some ACTION ON SOMEBODYS ***,AND WE CAN HAVE A GOOD TIME THE WHOLE FAMILY CAN COME AND WE ALL CAN HAVE A FIGHTING PARTY.and the best family win,what about a trophy to the best family.LOL,LOL,LOL.this is the way I would handle it UNCONDITIONALY.
bonniebon
bonniebon November 12, 2008
i have the same proble my 13 yr old got sup for aday
because he told everyone that the kid was messing with him so when the kid hit he had enough and hit him back so he got a day off and the other kid got more but if they had have done something before now he would not be in this i think something needs to be done about the staff at our schools when nothing is done before the problem gets this far they're aware of a problem and do nothing to keep it from going anymore
msowder15
msowder15 November 12, 2008
I believe you should always try and teach your child ways to get out of this kind of situation but when it comes down to it I don't think anyone would just sit there and let someone hit and kick them. It is natural to defend yourself and you should.
DeborahHamilto
DeborahHamilto November 12, 2008
Thank goodness the bully got his butt kick.his nose was the only thing that got broke,I should have been their and it should have been my child he would have had some broken ribs,black eyes,and a couple of front teeth knocked out.LOL then my child would have had a party while he was out of school.we would have took pictures to show the school the fun that they gave my son on his 3 day vacation.your son did nothing wrong,and I would award him for beating up the other boy.
Cardinalfan
Cardinalfan November 11, 2008
Well, there is a good example of bullies getting what's coming to them. Sadly, nothing is done right until physical action is done. My niece went thru the same thing, and is still going thru the same thing.
She defended herself, the parents wanted to press charges...AFTER ALL OF THESE MONTHS OF ME AND MY FAMILY TELLING TEACHERS, PROMOTING PEACE, TEACHERS TALKING TO THEIR PARENTS, AND SO ON.
I told my niece she had every right to do what she did. She played the peacemaker by all means. It didn't work. Either the so-called parent knew of the bully's behavior, or they didn't.

At first I was upset and told my niece to don't ever feel bad for defending herself,, EVER! But then it was a blessing-in-disguise. What the process did was revealed the bully's affiliations, issues, grades, past troubles, etc,, Opposed to my niece's good grades, and history. So when they started to talk that mess, it made the bully's parents look embarrased and they pulled out of the silly claim.

Shoot, you raised your child right. Everyone deals with issues, grown-up, and kids. Your child could've been at the receiving end. What's the bully's excuse for not being a good parent to teach their child some respect? That's the question.

Hate to get real here but: IT'S BETTER A BLOODY NOSE, THAN A LOST SOUL AND A BROKEN HEART, if you know what I mean.

Wake up parents!! That title doesn't mean anything unless you defend and honor it. Defend the title called parent!
tobbyandlui
tobbyandlui November 5, 2008
Your son did what he has to do, defend himself. There are some kids out there, that don't have any kind of respect for others, is not that I like violence, but if somebody is hurting you, you don't have any other thing than defend yourself, of course if you can prevent it by walking away first and not listening will be better, but with some kids even bug the person even more if this happens and try to get into a fight. It is okey that both have to see the school's resource officer and that is okey with you, just explain to your son that there is people out there like that, good and bad, that if possible, ignore these people completely if he is teased, try not to be around when they are there if it is possible.
debrasuefitzge
debrasuefitzge November 3, 2008
i agree with maggie93215,your son did nothing wrong he tryed to defend his self.
maggie93215
maggie93215 November 3, 2008
Talk with your son and remind him that he did the right thing, he tried to walk away but when push comes to shove all he did was defend himself. (Good for him) I would go talk with the resorce officer see if there is anything that they could help you with, Your son shouldn't have to do anything he was defending himself.
bonniebon
bonniebon November 3, 2008
i know that feeling my son is only 10 and we are going through the same thing i hate the system here in jacksonville,fl they do not pushish the rights ones the ones that are being bullied and fight back are the ones that get in trouble and the ones that do the bulling the school system sucks here i want to move to a better place
DeborahHamilto
DeborahHamilto October 29, 2008
Why is the school involved in this,they have no say so if this happen off the bus.this becomes the police job to get the info and write a report.then you go from there about what to do.I know that the school can't do anything to your child because this happen on a public street,and the school has nothing to do with this.you can talk to a sheriff where you live and they will tell you the same thing.now if it happen on the bus or on school grounds then the school staff can discipline your child to school rules.I would not let them even try to punish my child or scare me.this is something a street police should look into and the school should leave this alone.
pistons58
pistons58 October 29, 2008
When my son was in 2nd grade he was the victim of a 5th grade bully -- resulting in a broken collerbone. I went to the school and spoke to the principal and told him flat out - I don't want my son starting any fights but by god he has every right to end one. I knew he wouldn't - he was never a fighter. Principal claimed----we don't promote violence and I had to say---neither did I and ask if you don't promote or allow it - how did my son end up with broken bones.
I talked to an atty to re-coop my medical expenses ($398) not a lot but that wasn't the point - I wasn't working at the time and had no insurance but even if I was - that kid should have been liable for the cost of the damage he inflicted. My atty flat out told me.....and I quote......" I was just a pissed off mom seeking revenge" I was furious. PO-ed yeah but not revenge - it' s called compensation yahoo. And you can't sue a school due to governmental immunity.
I wish I would have known about pressing charges......that's just not my style.
Bullying is rampant and osmething needs to be done about it.
DeborahHamilto
DeborahHamilto October 29, 2008
You need to get some of the other kids that ride that bus and saw what really happen,talk with them and ask them will they be your son witness and meet you at the school office.you neither the school staff was there to see what really happen.listen to all the kids and you and the staff member can go from their,on what should be done.if it is truely like your child said then he should not be penalized for defending his self, and the other kid got just what he wanted a bloody nose.
Did your son break his nose? if your son did'nt he should have.LOL
Cubanabred
Cubanabred October 21, 2008
Thanks, it will help
debrasuefitzge
debrasuefitzge October 20, 2008
that is hard to do your son did nothing wrong.this happened to my daughter once and she got in trouble for defending herself.i told her that the world and people in it aren't always fair.she said i know mo-ma when you take up for yourself,you get in trouble it broke my heart to see her so upset.i guess i would tell him that sometimes the world and people in it aren't fair,when you've done nothing wrong.keep letting him know that you have done nothing wrong.

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