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CRB2230 July 7, 2008

How do we get our 9 year old daughter motivated to learn math subjects as example?

CRB2230
Our daughter lack interest in learning math and English that she failed in third grade in her parachial school. Now plan to transfer her to public shool in our neighborhoood.
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notisme35
notisme35 July 31, 2008
What is going on with these 9 year old females? My daugher has just turned 9 in June. We witnessed her grades excel to now average because of science. She received on her last report card for the year for math a B, and her science grade was a C which lowered her grade point average. She received an A in Language Arts, and in Social Science. We are trying to figure out now for this school year should we pay for a full year of tutoring or pay for private school.
PoetMary
PoetMary July 23, 2008
Okay, as an English teacher, I'm going to address the reading/grammar/writing part of your question. Here are three things you can do to help your child's language skills: 1. Be a reader and read to/with your children. 2. Speak standardized English as much as possible. 3. Take opportunities to WRITE to/with your child.

It seems important to me not to make your efforts too school-y. If she's feeling unsuccessful in school, and home becomes like school, it's just unsuccess all day long. However, you can incorporate these three things seamlessly into daily life. Reading books and magazine/newspaper articles together (you read a page she reads a page--or even shorter amounts if it's a high-interest book, but difficult reading level for her). Personally, I love poetry...it's rhythmic, creative, and fun...and SHORT, which is good for struggling readers. To improve her auditory/oral sense of language, memorize things together--fun poems, scripture, wise/interesting sayings, parts of books you're reading, lyrically strong songs, etc. Continue to practice conversation--at the dinner table, in the car, on the phone, etc. Also, listen to great speaking together--sermons/homiles, great speeches, books on cd, etc.

As for writing (this is my personal area of interest), it's easy in our visual age for students (and parents) to write very little in their daily lives. I suggest mommy/daughter email. Have a system where you email her several times a week and she replies. It can be as simple as "how's life", or more of a game-- where you "swap titles" and you each have to write a story to fit the title, or you write as a character from a book you're reading, etc. (this, btw, could also be done in a paper mommy-daughter journal which would give her practice with the physicality of writing). You can also have her handwrite thank-you letters for gifts (provide a model letter if she needs it), find her an online pen-pal her age, copy the words to her favorite songs to put on the walls of her room, start a scrapbook where she writes small paragraphs to describe each photo event, etc.

The natural motivation for all these language activities is parental attention. The important thing to emphasize, I think, is this is OUR time together, and this is how people use language in real life--people read, speak, and write for all sorts of purpose/occasions.

I hope this is helpful to you.
proactive
proactive July 22, 2008
Your child needs individual help. I suggest finding a tutor who makes home visits. Their prices range from forty to fifty dollars an hour. I do it for my child and I assist as well. My child is consistently on the honor role.I wish you well.
Chelsey68
Chelsey68 July 20, 2008
Let me first say, that you are not alone. Most parents are concerned with their childrens abilities in math and reading since that is the main focus in our schools today. I would suggest obtaining a book from your local bookstore with the titles What My 3rd Grader Should know...but I would suggest getting the first and second grade book first. This book will allow for review of all concepts and will also demonstrate how math and reading are a significant part of other content levels as well. One of your other responses suggested giving steps to your child to learn specific concepts in math. Being a second grade teacher, teaching steps may seem bothersome in the beginning. However, the reasoning is to move from the child writing all of the steps to using analytical processes, mental math, to answer questions in math. Good luck!! May your daughter have an awesome year this year!!
lexmark6
lexmark6 July 14, 2008
If your child has missed the fundamentals of a subject, for example, math. As your childs first teacher I would suggest that you start with a review of elementary math. Find out what is her strenghts then her weakness. Her weakness in math should be creatively introduced. For example more hands on if it is money, word problems etc..continue learning at the grocery store.) Please be consistent and constant. Be careful of your approach because she is not confident in this area.
Anonymous
Anonymous July 14, 2008
you know how you could get your 9 year old daughter to do math give her some money and tell her to save until she wants to spend and when that time comes ask her how much do you need but as you give her thet money tell her how much your giveing her that helped for my son
miranda34g
miranda34g July 13, 2008
You can do m and m's math or some kind of cereal
math to.
TheDJsWife
TheDJsWife July 13, 2008
My son had the same problem. I would incorporate certain math problems with his allowance so that I have his attention. As he started geting the problems right I would give him an extra dollar here and there as an awared. If possible get multiplication and division charts and play math bingo with them. Feel free to contact me if you are confused about it and I can further assist you with it. It worked for us. He went from D's in math to B's. Good Luck...
jigneshpanchal
jigneshpanchal July 12, 2008
my answer is give 9 years old an easy and teach them step. and go on to other math subjects
windezzy
windezzy July 12, 2008
How is she with the basics? like times table adding etc. I find that if they struggle with those then math is usually hard. However if she is ok then you could try some educational games like leapfrog turbo twist and I-quest (also brainquest.com is a good website to practice on) these toys have fun simple math, spelling, history, science games and they can challenge their parents and friends. Hope this is helpfull. Of course lots of patient is necessary.
other12
other12 July 11, 2008
try to make games out of the math. or give treats for the more math done
amyirah_2008
amyirah_2008 July 10, 2008
She is capable, she just has to believe in herself
amyirah_2008
amyirah_2008 July 10, 2008
Be patient with her and try to listening to her and try helping her as best as you can. You can help motivate her by taking her to a local learning center and letting them tutor her. It helps, I experienced it when i was in high school and they taught me that and more.
buckaroo
buckaroo July 8, 2008
My daughter's school uses the ST Math program that was recently talked about in the local paper:

www.ocregister.com/ocregister/life/themorningread/article_1955229.php

It removes the language barrier to learning math. My daughter has dyslexia and using this program not only increased her math skills dramatically, she LOVED the program and wanted me to get it at home (they use a cute little penguin cartoon named JiJi in the program that you help along by working math problems). Unfortunately, as far as i can tell it is designed for school implementation, not home use.
They have demos at mindresearch.net/video/demo.html
CRB2230
CRB2230 July 8, 2008
I want to say Thank you for answering so quickly
to all participant with my question.
THANKYOU
CRB2230
CRB2230 July 8, 2008
When I mentioned English specifically writing, grammer and of course spelling
Which she had helped by Resource teacher at her school using Orton-Gillingham method.
CRB2230
CRB2230 July 8, 2008
I should have added this information to question that is we had our daughter tested last school year.
Last May before school was out we had IEP meeting at Special Education in our school district.
But have not got any of paperwork yet.
Given a whole amount of test with reading/comprehension also math equations and speech, O.T. also P.T. we would be eligible for more hours if we were in public not parachial school.
healthy11
healthy11 July 7, 2008
Under IDEIA2004, the rules were changed to say that the public school district where the child was attending school is now responsible for testing...for homeschooled children, it would definitely be their "regular" local school. For students who attend a parochial school near their house, or in the same vicinity, chances are good it's still the same school district. But in any event, if the decision has already been made to enroll CRB2200's daughter in the local public school for the upcoming year, that's the district I would submit the evaluation request to.
kskksk
kskksk July 7, 2008
healthy, I stand corrected. I know if you are in the district you are correct. I believe if you are out of district this may not be the case. thx
healthy11
healthy11 July 7, 2008
kskksk, public schools CAN test a child even if they are not enrolled, but they will often "balk" and give excuses to delay the process, claiming that they want more time to do a "case study" and try different things to see if the problems persist.... I know, because my own son WAS tested through the public school system even though he was attending a private school at the time.
In this case, there should be NO hesitation...Submit the written request for comprehensive educational evaluation to the school district office right away. Federal IDEA regulations say they should respond within a set time frame, generally 60 days or less, although some states do clarify it's "school days" so summer vacation and weekend don't count...
kskksk
kskksk July 7, 2008
healthy and silly have posted some great ideas.
The goal is to determine the nature of her unwillingness. Rarely do children balk for no reason. There is always a reason, and you want to rule out disabilities or even something as simple as reading glasses as soon as you can. Unfortunately a deficit is somtimes defined as 2 grade levels behind and could be because of a disability or as simple as insufficient, or the wrong type of instruction. You will have to proceed like a detective to narrow the world of possibilities into likely reasons. The fact that she has already failed is of great concern. Get her enrolled at the new school ASAP. Public schools will not test a student until they are enrolled. I personally am very facinated with the notion of multiple intellegences and this has really opened my mind to present material to children in different ways.
Jsillymom
Jsillymom July 7, 2008
You have gotten some great advice from these posters! If you are looking for learning styles here is a good place to see them www.ldpride.net/learningstyles.MI.htm#Learning%20Styles%20Explained .

My youngest son who will be entering First Grade had a difficult time understanding how to add and subtract (I know this isn't what your daughter's problem is but this is just an example) so what I ended up doing was going outside drawing a number line and had him jump his addition and subtraction facts. So if I say the problem was 5 + 3 he would start on 5 and jump three spaces to get the answer. This he understood and now loves doing his math. You daughter might be a Kinesthetic learner. So you can come up with games and things to help her with her math. Here is a website I have found for some math challenges www.dupagechildrensmuseum.org/aunty/index.html she makes them fun so that might help.
Here is a fun site for English/Language Arts www.dositey.com/ . I hope this has helped some. Getting her tested is a good idea too. She may not just be uninterested but she might be having difficulty.
healthy11
healthy11 July 7, 2008
The suggestions made by the other posters are good, but I'm wondering if you've already requested, in writing, that the public school do a comprehensive educational evaluation on your daughter? If you go to sites like www.wrightslaw.com, and www.concordspedpac.org, you can find out more about your rights. It sounds to me as if your daughter has some type of learning issue, not just a lack of interest. She may benefit from an IEP (individualized education plan) if she is found to have significant deficits. You might also want to join Greatschools Learning and Attention Difficulties group at community.greatschools.net/groups/11554 to connect with more parents who can relate to what you're dealing with.
kskksk
kskksk July 7, 2008
First you must determine if your daughter has a skills deficit or a performance deficit. A skills deficit means she lacks the skill to do the work. She doesn't know what she is doing and is therefore not motivated to try. A performance deficit is when the child has the skill necessary, but does not perform the skill for any number of reasons such as disability, lack of interest, peer pressure, not enough time, too disorganized ...this list is endless. The answer to this question will elimintate many possibilities and help you focus your efforts to help her more easily.

In my experience motivation, or lack of it, is one of the most difficult issue to address with young learners. Once a child has failed, they can often fall prey to a "learned helplessness", due to their fear of failing again. This is a vicious cycle. My son is great at math but had little confidence to work on it. The way I addressed this was to buy the homeschool version of Singapore Math. We started a grade lower than he was capable. This helped him see he really did know a lot. He became less fearful and was able to work quickly up to grade level and is now well beyond grade level. Nothing suceeds like success. She needs some success assuming she has no disabilities. The prior post offers many good ideas, however, there comes a point when math is just hard, and it becomes a question of confidence in what you already know and your ability to transfer that knowledge to new math areas. Be aware that a very high percentage of failure in math is connected to a lack of skill and knowledge of basic math facts. While this seems obvious, very often the memorization of math facts (addition, subtraction, X and division can make a world of difference. Another area that needs review is place value which many children never understand fully. A fuzzy understandinig makes math very difficult as you get into more complex problerms. Also, you may want to review basic concepts using base 10 blocks or other based 10 manipulatives. This really helped us.

Lack of good "book keeping" or what we call "math mechanics" is another area that can make math seem very difficult even when you understand it. Lining up the numbers and sequencing steps into predicatable patterns can help. Buy grid paper and make her show her work in pen so you can figure out if this is a problem. Don't let her erase as constant erasing breaks the flow and can cause bookkeeping errors. This can help assuming the child understand the math concept but can not execute the calculations without errors.

Engilsh is pretty broad, so more inforimation would help. Is it reading, spelling, writing, grammer, etc?
lilend
lilend July 7, 2008
Maybe she has a different learning style. Most kids do better with real life learning. For math, money works like magic. Does she like working on a computer? There are a lot of fun games and free websites. For English, she doesn't have to read books, once again, there are websites with games, there are computer games, there are magazines, there are board games, treasure hunts worked great with my son.

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