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kpowel April 2, 2008

does anyone know of any schools made up of predominatly african american students, and the education is good.

kpowel
I ask this question not to be races, but because I've been researching today's education and it appears that students of different race(black, hispanic), economically disadvantaged seem to have the poorest of education. These schools also lack parent particapation. Children that do have a higher level of education in these communites seem to go to private schools at some of the expense of the community/school system. Please tell me my thinking is narrow minded and this is not true.
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Suomi0304
Suomi0304 May 12, 2008
Being an educator in a 100% poor school that is 90% African American I can tell you I spend so much out of pocket and bend over backwards for these students. Many teachers think that because they are from the projects that the Black people only care about surviving and not the children's education. I am white/Arab, but grew up in the LA and Buffalo projects and really don't believe that. When my students came into my 3rd grade room at the beginning of this year they had a class avg. of 21 in math and 37 in reading, social studies forget it they didn't know a dang thing. Now, it's May and they have an overall 77 class avg. in math and reading right now class avg. is an 86 and going up, and this is only my first year teaching. We've done a lot more including units on US geography, a unit on Africa, a lot of Black history (taught correctly), and more. We've done field trips too so the kids see there's more to life and the world than just the crime, prostitutes, etc. that they see. Another thing is my issue with nearly all Black schools (including my own) is that they run them like a prison, I swear.
I would actually recommend not to put any child in a school that is 90% above one race because I strongly believe multiculturalism is good for a child. Just my personal opinion but multiculturalism comes 2nd most important after schools with good teachers/good academics/good leadership.
If you tell me where you live I might be able to give you a good school. Here are some excellent multicultural schools that have a strong or decent percentage of Black students.
*City Honors- 25% Black- Buffalo, NY (5th grade and up, honors students only)
*Tapestry Charter School -I think 30%- Buffalo, NY
*Olmstead #64 - Buffalo, NY (not sure but there are a LOT of mixed race kids at this school. This is an extremely diverse school and I helped there and the teachers are outstanding)
*Southside Academy Charter School- 88% Black- Syracuse, NY

Also, it depends on your state. NY is extremely racially segregated in schools and children of color do really poorly in most schools (not my students). Down in like Mississippi Black students are doing extremely well.
Anonymous
Anonymous April 6, 2008
The elementary school in our community with the highest concentration of African Americans scores very well on our statewide MAP (Missouri Assement Program) Test.

African Americans represent 50%; the school has a 78% free and reduced lunch population. This group tends to score lower in most schools.

I belive our district is very diligent in targeting resources to this school and sucessful in overcoming barrier to provide quality education to low-income and minority students.

Free & Reduced Lunch - as incicator of poverty

Communications: Below Basic 10% Basic 47% Proficient + 43%
Math Below Basic 3% Basic 38% Proficient + 59%

2007 average, grades 3, 4, 5.
sheilab
sheilab April 3, 2008
Vernon Elementary School (K-8) in Portland Oregon is predominatly African American and the children are meeting or exceeding state reading test. They have a special reading program funded by title one and have won numerous awards for the achievements. It would be interesting to see the results of these children as they move on to high school. Currently no high school in Portland Public School system has African Americans meeting or exceeding state testing.
drjohnson
drjohnson April 2, 2008
I agree with Healthy11. There are several schools in Chicago that have visionary principals and do great.

There is also this famous example in Connecticut:

www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=15713

Having watched my daughter's elementary school go through several political crises due to the achievement gap, I've developed some opinions on the matter. Many people look for one master stroke that will solve the problem, but I think that it's multifaceted.

Starting with the most obvious, there's the economic correlation. It's undeniable that the rate of poverty among minorities is much higher. One can imagine many reason for a cause and effect (poverty leading to poor achievement). Parents, and their children, have their minds on day to day survival rather than gaining an academic edge. you can see this pattern across all races. And achievement of children is highly correlated with maternal education. So poor achievement is self perpetuating.

However, you could also look at it the other way around. Is poor achievement leading to poverty? For example, studies show that a tremendous percentage of prisoners is dyslexic. Could there be a pattern of learning disabilities, perhaps just differences, that lead to poor performance in school as it exists, which then leads to poor performance in society and therefore poverty?

Then there are cultural aspects to the whole question. In our neighborhood, there has been resentment between recent immigrants from Africa and the Caribbean vs. African Americans. The recent immigrants tend to perform much better in school and have much higher expectations for their children.

Parental involvement with the school is also an indicator of a child's academic success. In our school, it's been very difficult to get African American and Hispanic parents to participate. But, again, which is the chicken and which the egg? White stay-at-home moms with previous executive careers have a much easier time of running organizations such as the PTA. Meetings tend to revolve around the convenience and style of these parents. But even highly educated minority parents tend not to participate at the same rates as the white families.

I also have to bring up the question of racism. Our school had black administrators and many black teachers, yet it appeared that the general expectations for minority students was just lower. Often differences in treatment were subtle and probably not intentional. But a friend of mine who's children are bi-racial was able to recount some very disturbing anecdotes. Most white parents would never have occasion to notice. Minority parents with higher academic expectations tend to enroll their kids in magnet schools or programs to avoid these low expectations.

There are also many teaching styles that are more successful with minority students than the standard lecture mode. For example, white students seem to be best motivated by implicit high expectations. Minority students tend to do better with a lot of hands on attention and encouragement. They also perform better with multi-sensory instruction and the opportunity to move around the classroom.

Here's the results page from a search at one site that discusses many of these topics:

www.edutopia.org/search/node/black+boys

And then there's the question of neighborhoods: funding, safety, classroom management, pool of available teachers etc.

Sorry, I tend to write long posts.
Luv_BN_Mom
Luv_BN_Mom April 2, 2008
I went to a predominately black school in Maryland. I feel the level of education was great. In my opinion it was lack of student involvement that made the school seem substandard. The teachers tried the best they could, but when at any moment a gun fight may occur or you fear for your life every day you step foot in the door it can become hard to concentrate on your studies. And not everyone can afford private schools. So we pretty much just sucked it up, graduated as fast as we could, and being that my husband is military we moved out of the area. I don't think your question is racist at all. Reading the book is always better than just figuring it out by the cover.
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