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My son, who is 7, got a school diagnosis of Asperger's and ADHD recently, but when they assessed my daughter (who has only been in this school since 4th grade) they were convinced that she had nothing wrong with her.

Well, I agree, there is nothing wrong with her. But something isn't right, just the same. She is smart, one of the smartest kids the testers had tested, so said the one who covered that category (she said it to my daughter, which gave me pause. My kid thinks she already knows everything, and grandiose praise really should be delivered with certain reservations). Yet for reasons they never identified aloud, she is doing poorly.

Now, I can only imagine the implications. It's our fault, it's her attitude, something is to blame that they can't handle, I dunno. But here's how it stands.

"One of the smartest kids" they've ever tested had to be put into a lower level math because she had failed to learn a lot of the things that they had in fact taught her class. She is doing poorly in every subject, even the ones she likes or is in fact especially good at (she's an advanced reader and reads all the time, yet has poor reading scores. Go figure). Her spelling is terrifying, no matter how well she learns the words for a particular test. She can with effort learn them and parrot them back. But left to her own reasoning, she presents some very interesting ideas on spelling. I'm convinced that the school that taught her spelling did not teach it very well. Had I realized, I would have stepped in sooner.

She sits and draws in class, loses assignments, forgets books, fails to complete homework, forgets (or lies about) assignments even when asked, fails to turn in homework even when we've completed it together, won't take notes (presented with the pencil and paper, she is too tempted to draw, I guess)... well, there you go.

I'm sure I'm no help. I try to be, but my real attitude must be written all over my face. I think the focus should be on how much actually soaks in, and that the rubbish busy work is just that. Reams of paper wasted to make the same insipid points over and over. But I don't tell her that... I tell her the value of learning to work, that working on a project in stages makes it possible to do a better job, that she should put things immediately into her folder if she is going to need them later so as to not forget them, that her teachers deserve her respect, and when all else fails, if she does not like the teachers to at least be respectful and consider it practice for adult life!

So I am at the point where I am considering whether it is worth it to consult the pediatrician. My son is still struggling and I suspect a professional assessment in his case might be more worthwhile than the semi-professional guesses of the school. It's not that I think they're wrong. I'm pretty sure I have what he has, actually. Or that I am what he is, rather. 

What benefits might there be from a professional assessment for both children? The gain for my daughter is obvious. If there is some subtle learning disability, one outside the usual that schools test for, or if she might be as I think a textbook example of a girl with ADD (considered belligerent instead of deemed worthy of help) then maybe she can get some help. I just need some idea how to help her get things together before she fails 5th grade. Or worse (I think), before she is promoted with borderline grades and lacking what she needs to handle 6th grade.

If I irritate anyone with my attitudes, I apologise. I've been through public school myself. I've been treated as a problem child, as they called us then, called hyperactive and put into incompetent therapy all while my so-called peers mocked and teased me, daily, for years, and the teachers and administration seemed to think they were justified in doing it. When, in high school, I did make some effort to make straight A's, I only managed it for grading period. It still makes me wonder if it was them or me. I never could seem to figure out what it was that they wanted from me. I swear every teacher did things completely differently. It hardly seems fair. I can't just assume my kids are being difficult or undisciplined (we try, really, they just don't seem to think loss of priveleges, however beloved, is enough reason to behave) until I find out if there's something missing that they need to succeed.

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smwf02
smwf02 May 24, 2009
Re: My 11 year old might have ADD... at least, that's my reckoning on it.
Consider the diet for ADHD my sons Physcologist suggested it for a whole year before he decided a low short acting dose was going to be needed and he stands by the fact that in Jr High we will need to relook at it as he has high hopes that my son will outgrow a lot of it and or learn to manage it by discipline in what makes his life easier. We found that sugars and red food coloring actually most food coloring really affects him big time. So we have gone natural on a lot of things. For example ice cream can be made with out coloring at home really easy as can popcicles. He make them with natural fruit and he loves it I like it because there are no chemicals involved. Good luck and show these posts to your husband,my husband didn't think there was a problem until the Dr told him about it. Also read the book Scattered by Dr. Gabor Maté's it is a wonderful book on ADHD/ My husband found things in there that reminded him of himself and he came to a whole new understanding of our children.
italgal
italgal May 23, 2009
Re: My 11 year old might have ADD... at least, that's my reckoning on it.
girls notoriously slip through the cracks when it comes to ADD. believe me, i know this for a fact since we have 2 daughters w/ ADD. most teachers won't agree there's a problem if your child is compliant in the classroom and not bouncing off the walls. this is where you have to get pushy. have your daughter tested by the school--put your request in writing and give it to the principal. law mandates that the school district must comply w/ your request to have your child tested, even if your child's teacher disagrees. we chose to have our daughter tested privately. for us, it was well worth the $$ because we wanted to make sure she was fully tested and we received objective results. our daughter's teachers would say she just needed to try "harder"! they didn't see what we saw at home...our daughter sobbing, with her tears dripping on her homework papers because she couldn't focus. you know your child better than anyone. Be her warrior.
irishwhistle
irishwhistle May 23, 2009
Re: My 11 year old might have ADD... at least, that's my reckoning on it.
Well, I agree that a pediatrician isn't the one, at least, ours isn't. I have a referral, which is what I went in to get, and will be calling to get started on testing. But he told me that my only options were medication or a school with smaller class sizes. I explained that I had just come in there for a referral to get them tested by someone more expert than a school "psychologist" and furthermore asked if there weren't some kind of therapies to help. He was just as sure that there weren't. Yeah, buddy, you cure their bodies, but I'm not giving you any power beyond that. Sweet guy, but honestly. I have had executive dysfunction issues all my life, and I know that you can train yourself at things if you need to. There are coping skills you can learn. I haven't got it beat, but I know how to cope. I just hope my kids get better help than I have. Better than the poor pediatrician. Bleah. I also hope that my youngest is as sharp as we think she is at reasoning and logic. She's not yet three yet she seems to come to conclusions that her siblings and mother miss. I guess I just think my husband needs one more person around who sees the forest as well as the trees.
smwf02
smwf02 May 23, 2009
Re: My 11 year old might have ADD... at least, that's my reckoning on it.
I have to agree that it is one of the most misdiagnosed issue. I only found out that my children had it due to a specialist that happened to see my daughters handwriting.??? It seems that there is a new way of noting early symptoms by the handwriting. When children really struggle with handwriting mechanics it is often due to ADHD. My son struggled for 4 years before we figured it out and more because they causally mentioned that my daughter might have it. They were more worried about getting in trouble than helping. They called both of our kids lazy instead of knowing the real issue. My daughter with help techniques is doing well my son how ever takes a low dose of med's that last 4hours at a time. So it helps him get through class and home work and that's all. What a difference he went from c's and d's to A's and B's. Fight for your child and don't stop till your satisfied they have listened. Our son goes to both a psychologist and a psychiatrist for it so they can make sure the meds are correct and there are no side effects such as depression or worse. A pediatrician is not the person to treat this properly.
redpony
redpony April 24, 2009
Re: My 11 year old might have ADD... at least, that's my reckoning on it.
Oh gosh, your daughter sounds so much like my son--especially the spelling! He, by the way, was diagnosed with ADHD-inattentive subtype when he was 16. Medication made a huge difference in his school performance--his math grade went up 16 points (from a C to an A).

It's good that you're not bashing teachers and school to her even though you are probably right about the busy work. Even so, we all have to learn to do things we don't like to do sometimes.

BUT in order to help your daughter reach her potential you should follow your gut. We parents know our children the best. If you feel something just "isn't right" then it probably isn't. Talk to her pediatrician and set up some testing if you can. Maybe the school will help, and maybe not. I know I had to take a folder full of documents to cement my position about my son so he would be given a 504 (I paid for testing myself, though, so there wouldn't be any misdiagnosis--insurance paid for most of the ADHD testing).

My son is still terribly disorganized and forgetful. He is going away to college next year and I'm worried sick about how he is going to get along. I guess he'll sink or swim, as they say. He DID manage to earn BOTH a football scholarship AND some academic scholarships, too.

Good luck with your daughter and keep us posted!
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