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A blog reviews a new book, written by several former college presidents that says what many of us have assumed for a long time: the SAT and ACT don't correlate to college success.

Backed by massive amounts of data, Crossing the Finish Line might finally start to move more schools to de-emphasize the standardized tests if not dismiss them.

The article is located here.

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healthy11
healthy11 November 14, 2009
Re: Strong Data Discounts Importance of SAT and ACT
Tropicgal, thank you for posting the additional links.
Apparently, the 21 flagship colleges were all public universities, not private. One of the articles points out "The gaps shaped by gender, race, and ethnicity are more complex. At the 21 flagship universities in the study, African-American women and Hispanic women did relatively well. Their six-year graduation rates (72 percent and 76 percent, respectively) were close to the rate for white men (75 percent). But African-American men and Hispanic men lagged far behind, with rates of 59 percent and 66 percent, respectively."
tropicgal
tropicgal November 14, 2009
Re: Strong Data Discounts Importance of SAT and ACT
Here is another article that provides more data from the book:

www.insidehighered.com/news/2009/09/09/finish

This article lists a few of the schools in the study:

chronicle.com/article/For-Some-Students-an/48331/
healthy11
healthy11 November 14, 2009
Re: Strong Data Discounts Importance of SAT and ACT
tropicgal, I agree that grade inflation/manipulation could become a greater problem. I also question whether there could be more stress and anxiety and even depression when a student who gets a "B" in high school feels their opportunity to attend a top college has been crushed without "straight A's."

I haven't read the book, but I'd like to know which 21 prestigious universities in this study were. I find it difficult to believe that the students accepted to those colleges (unless they're athletes) had great SAT scores with mediocre GPA's, OR that they had good grades with poor SAT's. Kids who got in those schools likely had both, yet those universities aren't graduating 100% of their students, either. Clearly, there are other factors involved besides just grades or SAT/ACT scores.
tropicgal
tropicgal November 13, 2009
Re: Strong Data Discounts Importance of SAT and ACT
Very interesting. I think those tests are an easy way for large colleges that receive tons of applications, to automatically weed applicants out of the selection process--just let the computer do it, no personal review necessary.

If these tests are done away with, I see high schools possibly start inflating grades to improve seniors' chances of admissions, but this could do a big disservice to them once they got into college and have inflated ideas of their actual ability to do college level work.

Now if we could just get rid of the 10th grade F(lorida)CAT...
dhfl143
dhfl143 November 8, 2009
Re: Strong Data Discounts Importance of SAT and ACT
Very interesting. Thanks for posting this article.
MagnetMom
MagnetMom November 7, 2009
Re: Strong Data Discounts Importance of SAT and ACT
Sure, here it is. From the Quick and the Ed website: www.quickanded.com/2009/11/crossing-the-finish-line-the-sat-and-act.html
healthy11
healthy11 November 7, 2009
Re: Strong Data Discounts Importance of SAT and ACT
Magnetmom, any chance you can list the web address and not just an imbedded link? I can't seem to open it, but would like to read the article....Thanks!

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