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I am torn and really need help calming the storm in my head about where to have my -  just-  6 year old attend 1st grade next year.  He is very much above grade level in reading, writing, math and in some ways.. maturity.  He draws these very intricate mazes.  He draws the map of the USA and can write (spelling correctly) every state in the appropriate places.  He can tell you what states boarder what states.  He knows the capitals.  ... These are just a few of his interests.  He gets very focused when he has an interest in something.  He amazes us every day with something new.

On recommendation, I had him tested for the gifted program last year , but  he didn't qualify.  It was a fill in the bubble type test and i was not allowed to see the results at all. 

He is in our local school (brand new school) for kindergarten.  I placed him there last year because I was going through a very rough pregnancy and didn't have the energy to do a proper search.  Now, he has made friends and gotten used to this school.  And, although he doesn't seem enthusiastic about school and doesnt seem to learn much new on a daily basis...he says he doesn't want to leave.  They have tried to accomodate his needs by having him go to first grade for reading.  Otherwise... everything he does in class is just busy work.  Even the 1st grade work isn't that difficult.  And, in the 1st grade class... there are so many students with no aide that the class is very rushed and pressured.   I do think that even though he can do the work.. the pace is scary for him.  I'm worried that he is not showing the enthusiasm for school  and learning that he should/could.

The curriculum focuses on math and reading.  Not much of anything else. They do a rotation of music, library/computers and PE.   I want his education to be more balanced with science, art, music, foreign language, PE... and I want it to be more hands on and cooperative.  But, they must teach everyone the same it seems. 

I have now researched schools and the schools that seem more of a fit are a bit of a drive.  I don't want to have to drive him 30 min to his school twice per day.  I know that sounds petty.. but there are many cons to adding that commute to my day.  My family says.. "just put him in afterschool programs".  But, I say... "too much of that and we over-schedule him and he can't be a kid".  So, I'm trying to balance my sons educational needs with our family needs.

Does anyone have advice for me?  Even if he wasn't advanced... I don't like the way the local/public school focuses heavily on reading and math.  It is too robotic and not enough creative thinking.  What am I to do?

Thanks!

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Anonymous May 28, 2009
Re: I need help with my decision about where to place my, possibly, gifted 6 yr.old
I have been down this road and really wish you the best. My son has done Montessori (until 4th grade), it was a charter and we liked it until the 4th grade teacher who was just a terrible fit, and we felt our child was outgrowing the whole Monessori- sit on the floor- warm and fuzzy environment. Still, I would recommend it for a kindergarten through third grade, but it depends on the Montessori since they are all different in how they interpret Maria Montessori's methods. Don't you just love consistency in the American educational system? Then we did 2 years in public school, the last year in a self contained classroom, which I could write reams about but it doesn't much matter since funding has pretty much been axed and we applied months ago to a charter school. I am pretty ambivalent about the whole gifted thing and the cottage industry surrounding it, and the pathologizing that goes along with having a child that is "different". At this point, I have stopped reading the piles of books, papers and websites that all have served to do nothing more than raise our expectations as parents, only to be disappointed by the educational system that purports to "understand". We have had enough experience both good and bad to feel confident, however, in moving forward, which at this point does not include "gifted education". You may come to a different conclusion than we did, and your experiences, where you live and what's offered, may lead you down a different path. But, remember that you know your child better than anyone else. Do not be cajoled or prodded into making a decision you are not sure or comfortable with. Look very hard at what is offered to you. Ask ANY AND ALL questions, and make sure you get answers. Transparency about your child and your expectations is vital. I would not depend on the school to do intelligence testing, you need to go to a psychologist who will review the results with you and offer assistance and guidance. That is the best decision we ever made. If you want to send me a private e-mail, I will be happy to elaborate more specifically on things that we experienced as well as the conclusion I have come to regarding gifted ed.
Young008X
Young008X May 28, 2009
Re: I need help with my decision about where to place my, possibly, gifted 6 yr.old
Try Maiden Choice School or Villa Cresta Ele.
heatherq2
heatherq2 March 15, 2009
Re: I need help with my decision about where to place my, possibly, gifted 6 yr.old
I am just starting this road, moving into elementary this coming fall. I have spent too much time crying because we do not live close to any gifted schools nor can we truly afford paying the 20-22k a year.

The standard private schools in the area don't want my son because, being gifted, he comes with his own set of quirks. He needs transition time, has anxiety in part due to a perfectionist personality.


We are in the San Jose area of California. Any suggestions?? Montessori is something I would look into but worry that it's not enough structure and group time. Thoughts?
metdad
metdad March 10, 2009
Re: I need help with my decision about where to place my, possibly, gifted 6 yr.old
While my first thought was, "yeah-they're all gifted at 6...," being able to correctly spell and locate all 50 states is pretty impressive. Thankfully your mates only 6 and won't be after my job for a while. Sooo-while I study my states for the day he enters the job market maybe you can tell me why you would let your kid take a test that you weren't allowed to see the results of? Kinda like buying a dinner you aren't allowed to eat. You are the parent-there is NOTHING that should ever be kept from you-as much as we might like it to be otherwise later on.
Most kids who are "advanced" tend to become average about the time those who are slow also meet the middle mark. It's just one of those things. If he has friends and is secure-why move him? If you want to challenge him-do it at home or with tutors with assistance from school. Work with his comfort level-that's where he will be most likely to strive.
E1ismysun
E1ismysun February 10, 2009
Re: I need help with my decision about where to place my, possibly, gifted 6 yr.old
thank you for your info. I will request to see his test. I"m thinking of testing him again. Your question about carpooling.. well.... that is a posibility. However, I'm trying to get back to work and I'm not sure how that will all fit in. Depending on where I work and where he goes to school.. all plays a part on transportation. Thanks again for everyone's input... every little bit helps.
E1ismysun
E1ismysun February 10, 2009
Re: I need help with my decision about where to place my, possibly, gifted 6 yr.old
no.. when did you send it? Maybe it just takes longer. Try again and I will watch carefully in my spam box.
thanks!
Anonymous
Anonymous February 9, 2009
Re: I need help with my decision about where to place my, possibly, gifted 6 yr.old
E1ismysun,

I sent you a private message regarding testing, just wondering if you received it.
TeacherParent
TeacherParent February 9, 2009
Re: I need help with my decision about where to place my, possibly, gifted 6 yr.old
What we do depends on our options - if your only other options for schools involve a long drive - no one could blame you for hesitating. It doesn't sound petty - it sounds sensible. Driving and in traffic is frustrating, time-consuming and the gas to do the drive is a real expense.
Would carpooling be possible? That might make it more possible for your son to attend a more distant school.
You can certainly leave him in his current school for another year to see how the next year goes. If this is a public school that your son is now in - and I think it is - they cannot legally refuse to show you your son's test results for the gifted program. The Family Rights and Privacy Act - a federal law - makes ALL documents, tests, reports etc. that have to do with your son just as much your property as the school's. They cannot legally deny you the results of that test. If you want those results, call the principal or the school guidance counselor or school psychologist - if they say no again, remind them of the Family Rights and Privacy Act and pleasantly insist on seeing the results.
E1ismysun
E1ismysun January 29, 2009
Re: I need help with my decision about where to place my, possibly, gifted 6 yr.old
Sonora,
Thank you for your feedback. I noticed on one of your other replies that you live in Phx, Az. I live in South Chandler, AZ. Can you recommend someone to test my child? Also, are you familiar with Keystone Montessouri in Ahwatukee (hope I got the spelling correct). I have done some research... but because of health issues (which might be surfacing because of stress>..)... I haven't toured any of the schools.
The CATS program is in a few local schools too, but I'm not sure if that is the right fit either.
Anyway, thank you again for your comments. I will get involved in groups that can give me advice. And, getting out to see the schools will help.
I still battle with taking him from his familiar place and with the driving aspect. But, I know that in the long run... if he is happy at a school and his needs are met...we all will adjust just fine. I think that 1st grade sets a tone for the rest of elementary school and I want to do it right.
Thanks again..
Anonymous
Anonymous January 29, 2009
Re: I need help with my decision about where to place my, possibly, gifted 6 yr.old
E1ismysun,

As the parent of a gifted child, my first bit of advice is have him tested/evaluated by a psychologist outside the school. I understand your reluctance to drive far distances for school, we have done that for two years and will probably do it for one more, but then that's it. So we will be looking closer to home. I can't paint you a pretty picture however. Sometimes the drive is the best solution. If it isn't for you, then stick to your guns, don't let people pressure you to do otherwise. Your peace of mind and stress level IS important. Are their charter or alternative schools near? Or a montessori? My child did montessori for 5 years and it was a good fit (mostly). I think your family's suggestion to just put him in afterschool programs is a curious one....I understand your reaction. Most afterschool programs, in my experience, are overly structured (more rules, rules, rules, rules) and staffed by inexperienced and underpaid young people. Some do have good "enrichment classes" but you pay for those too. Even if your child is identified as "gifted", sadly to say that is not the end of your problems but only the beginning. Gifted programs, depending on the state you live in, are as different as night and day, if they exist at all. And sometimes the school just pays lip service to the parents about "gifted ed" and the education delivered is not what it's cracked up to be. You are going to have to do your homework. Fortunately, your child is six and you are wisely thinking about this NOW. If he is gifted he may become increasingly bored with school which leads to other issues. Try to find a parent group or gifted association where you live and start networking, educating yourself on what exists around you to enhance his creative/educational experience. And if you are new to this site, start reading voraciously for hints and ideas of what other parents have done in this situation. I really feel for you since I have been there and continue to struggle with issues, even after having found a gifted program in a lovely school. It shouldn't be this hard to raise a smart child, and maybe it's time for parents to start lobbying for BIG changes. There are things flowing in the current, like the small school movement, which to my knowledge Bill Gates is very interested in. Don't give up hope.

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