Please please PLEASE do not let this teacher or the school get away with this criminal abuse of your child! It won't stop with him if you don't. It amazes me that there are teachers who respond with shock to learn that SOME TEACHERS REALLY CAN AND DO ABUSE STUDENTS! We had a year-long nightmare with 3 of my son's Grade 4 teachers, his school social worker AND his principal that neither he nor my family will ever forget, because they not only completely ignored his being bullied by his peers, they also PARTICIPATED in bullying him, and then bullying me for confronting them! I was encouraged by my son's student advocate and by our legal counsel to hold off on filing state and OCR complaints to avoid further retributions to my son, at the time. I still regret not having filed complaints and SUED THEM TO THE HILT, even though I pushed back so hard in every other way that the district finally took the right actions for my son in a different school.

Make this teacher and the school/district accountable for the harm to your child. Now NO teacher is allowed to abuse a kid and get away with it if I find out!

I am so sorry!!!!!!!! I don't know what to say other than seek legal counsel -- as a teacher I can't fathom some of the things parents accuse teachers of -- but with such widespread complaints I realize they might just be valid. I just have to say not all teachers are that way -- in fact most of love your kids as if they were our own and we treat them as if they are our own.

That is absurd!!! That teacher should be removed from the school... Period! My kids have been racially slurred called fat A@@ white punk A@@ B%tch. My district has done nothing. The kids got a warning. But my child gets blamed for cutting someones hair based on here-say and is suspended for 2 days! That is unjust....But this girl is the same girl calling my daughter names and pushing her around bullying her and she gets nothing?????
I also had 2 years ago my 14 year old dragged off the bleachers kicked in the stomach and because it was finals they did not suspend the kids. I think our school systems are messed up. They say they have a zero tolerance but they don't, they play favorites. And it's bull. I am sick and tired of it. They let every kid in here and because they are a minority its racial if they don't let them in but it's ok for them to trash my kids and threaten them and beat the heck out of them... Public Schools are all about money and who can get more kids for the money.. It's sad that money controls our school systems!

Some one ask what do we do when our Kids rights are being violated and we have exhausted all other actions. My lat resort would be sue the school board ,the school and the teacher. I believe when one is hit hardest throught their pockets they then to corect their mistake. But this must be a last resort when all other avernues are exhausted

I believe the power is still in the adults hand. Some convervation we do not have to entertain, some others we confront the parents not giving them the option to defend but offer a solution in a smart way. For instance the sex comment. We can tell the child that is a way Parents show each other affection and leave it at that or we can tell the child that is grown folks business and not a conversation for school. The parents we can ask to close the door as their daughter/son is hearing everything and bringing it to school. Let them be a bit embarrass so they will correct there actions.Some parents might call you names but if you love what you do (teaching kids ) you will understand that is some of the JOYS and BAD of being a teacher

Hi Natelykim

I am sorry but because of your posting I had to become a member of this site.I am sorry that is inexcusable. At my kids school there is a no tolerant bullying rule. I had an occassion where my daughter was sick with a tad of runny nose and I told her to stay out of the sun. That day she had P.E. and instead of insisting she join the class her teacher told her it was okay but next time ask her mom to send a note. I have never experience any such behavior from any teachers at the school my girls attend so I deeply feel it as bullying can lowers a child self esteem. Is it possible to move your child to a new school. Dont worry karma is a very funny thing.

thanks Kenny'smom, I really don't know what this teacher is up to. I received an email from the teacher, she has decided to return the soap and have all the students use the school soap, still not appropriate. My daughter is in 2nd grade, of course she is going to do what the teacher says.
As for a nurse, the school only has one come in once a week, CRAZY!!!
I am waiting on a call back from the school board. i had to go this route because no one at the school will listen to me.
I am tired of dealing with people who could careless.


Sorry to hijack your thread Natetykim!!! I didn't mean for it to happen. I was just letting you know I know how you feel.

I'm sorry this is happening -- but as a teacher I will say -- HAS THIS TEACHER LOST HER MIND OR SOMETHING --- Why can't she use the soap????? Get a note from the doctor -- ask to have her go to the nurse to use it each time she has to wash her hands -- if the teacher complains about the inconvenience say -- "I originally intended for her to use the soap with your assistance -- but you left me no choice but to do this!!!!"

I know I can get defensive of teachers -- but this is ABSOLUTELY uncalled for.

We are actually in the process of getting a letter sent to the school. she just went to the dr yesterday because of the flare up.

Have her doctor send a note to school stating that your daughter must be allowed to use said soap at school.

I am going through basically the same thing. My daughter is being bullied and no one will help us get it stopped. The teacher has decided not to do anything when she is told about it. My daughter was touched in the private area today and she told the teacher and the teacher said it wasn't intentional. My daughter has been called fat, ugly, a few cuss words and everyone sits back and says nothing.
she has a skin disorder, its not contagious, and the teacher has decided since she has to use a certain soap that because none of the other kids can use it, that my daughter isn't using it either. This was recommended by her dr, because the soap at school flared the disorder up.

That is awful & should not be tolerated. Where on earth do you live?

Oh! no! no! no!, not allowed in my book. Traumas can be caused by this for the rest of children's lives.

In my opinion you need to get to the bottom of this by contacting the Department of Education in your state, and have them investigate this teacher. Perhaps your child is not the only one in the classroom and other parents will come forward.

Good look.

seeoomarah

seahorse, sorry to hear that your son is being picked on for being from up north. We live in TN and I find that many prejudices still exist here. Many people I know face the repercussions of being different. I am an atheist and single mother of a bi-racial child. So I know how it feels, just hang in there and teach your son that tolerance is a virtue to be treasured.

I HEAR YOU ON THE 'TEACHERS BEING GOLD'. MY 6 YEAR OLD SON IS ALSO BEING MISTREATED,BUT BY OTHER STUDENTS WHILE THE TEACHERS DO NOTHING ABOUT IT. WE MOVED HERE {GA.} FROM UP NORTH 3 YEARS NOW, AND STILL GET THE COLD SHOULDER.WE'RE THINKING ABOUT JUST CHANGING SCHOOLS, AND IF THAT DON'T WORK, WE'LL PROBUBLY MOVE BACK TO WHERE MY SON WON'T BE EXCLUDED AND PICKED ON FOR BEING A 'YANKEE' AS THEY LIKE TO CALL IT.

if someone did that to my son I would be so mad. I can't believe that happened. My son is stating kindegarden this year and I am so scared.

Thanks so much for the compliment :)

I think her mother would be mortified if she knew her daughter had shared that with you --- but YEAH FOR THE PARENT for stepping up and trying to make good choices for herself and her family!!!

As for the things we hear in the classroom...
Last year, I told the class I would be gone the next morning for a meeting and they would have a sub. A girl asked in front of the class "Is it an AA meeting?" I covered my shock as we all do :-} and replied "No. It is for math." The girl said "My mom goes to AA every week!"

Should I judge? No. Do I now have a tiny insight into the courage of her mother and how a few things might slip by at home? Yep. We all try. Parents and teachers.

Show me a perfect parent and I'll be the first to declare they should be entitled to a perfect teacher.

For the record Kennysmom, I think you have excellent communication skills and it is clear you are a thoughtful person.

Thank-you Peacenut.... I agree it was petty, but until others understand the position teachers are in we will always get blamed for EVERYTHING that goes wrong in a classroom ..... what parents don't realize is that 99.9% of the time we walk around on eggshells because we never know when something we might say will get misconstued ..... I wonder how good a parent would feel if with every interaction they had to worry about what their kid would say to someone and if CPS should be called. I've heard teachers say things harshly .... I've also heard parents do it also .... I don't think teachers should be allowed to "abuse and belittle" kids -- but if parents think teachers go through a year without saying something harshly or yelling just once they only fool themselves ---- let's ask a parent to NEVER say anything harshly or yell at their kids ...... now add 20 kids. AND yes I know the argument .... teachers are the professionals ..... but parents are a kids FIRST AND BEST ROLE MODELS and how you've treated them during their first 5 years of living and beyond is reflected in everything they do or don't do in our classrooms. Sometimes getting through to a kid (or even the parents) is frustrating and IMPOSSIBLE. You see the majority of teachers are parents so we do understand the "parental" position but very few parents are classroom teachers & theirfore don't have a clue about the reality of their expectations ...... if you are a parent having problems with a teacher .... go volunteer in the classroom. One of 2 things will occur.... 1) you'll see things you don't like & understand the problem or 2) you'll have a deeper respect for the teacher and the fact that they are doing the best they can -- and you probably couldn't do it any better yourself

clearbrook73, I too am a teacher and have been in a few instances of a student misunderstanding something I said. Given how much we say in a day, everday, it is human nature for some kids to misunderstand an item once in awhile. It is not a communication problem WE have. I think it was petty for you to suggest that Kennysmom has a problem communicating.

She is trying to explain not defend.

I am also aware of teachers who should find another career because they have lost the focus on children. In any state in our country, tenure is not a guarantee to a job. It is guarantee of DUE PROCESS. That means a teacher, just like any union worker in a factory, must have a reason for being fired. They must be notified of the problem and it must be documented by administration. They are entitled to a time to improve upon the problem. Just like any other worker.

Also just like any other worker, they can be fired immediately for specific things. Abuse is obviously one of the reasons. I do know of teachers who have been dismissed even during the year so it does happen.

The reason for unions and due process is because older workers were fired and replaced by new workers because new staff are cheaper.

It is the start of a new year for your son in a new school. Is it time to let go of your anger and focus on making this a great new year? The administration knows what the teacher did, the teacher knows what she did, the school board knows. She could very well have been reprimanded with a letter in her file, requirement to attend behavior management classes or diversity training, or all of the above. The district does not legally have to tell you what her disciplinary action was.

Natelykim,
I was referring to kennysmom when I mentioned communication misunderstandings and communication difficulties.

I want some parents to seriously consider these comments that kids say to teachers that I've heard first hand -- comments from articulate, well spoken & smart kids.....

My parents had sex last night I could hear my mom moaning and groaning -- I've never heard her cuss like that.

My mom opened all the windows in my room last night because I was bad and made me sleep naked in my bed with no blankets.

My mom slapped me really hard -- my face was on fire.

My mom wouldn't let me do my homework.

I had to cook dinner for my brother and me -- my mom was sleeping on the couch she'd been drinking beer.

My dad hit my mom & now my dad can't see us.

These are only a few of the things my kids have told me and when parents find out they act as if nothing ever happened and the kid is nuts so....... If a kid tells me this do I report it to CPS or let it go as childhood exaggeration ..... and I ask parents .... confront the teacher or let it go as a child's exaggeration of the reality. If you were the parent would you want to talk to CPS .... several of the above instances I've reported to CPS were applicable. Sometimes kids have a lot of power. We don't want to believe they are as articulate as they are and could say the things they could say, but a few of the examples I've given ...... the final results were the child being retaliatory because they knew that the "law" would protect them. We are raising a generation of kids that are very aware of their "rights". Most of us grew up in an age where we were not aware of the fact that some of what our parents did was abuse --- Our kids have been made aware of this and they use it against parents and they use it against their teachers.

I know that many parents don't want to believe that their kid "might" fall in this category -- and most kids don't. There are a few that would "lie" to get your attention and it could ruin someone's career. I've watched this as well. Please don't be naive and "believe" your kid solely -- do your own investigating when your kids bring up a concern.

I don't know what posseses a teacher to do diplorable things to children -- they should be removed from the classroom -- honestly that's how I feel -- they aren't good for kids & give the rest of us a bad name. If she had a chance to explain herself and didn't I'd consider her silence as guilt -- a "normal" teacher would explain this -- not that closet time is explainable but ..... I don't know -- why your son -- only his teacher could explain that -- I'd strongly reccommend that you request your son be transferred to a new teacher if possible.

On my communication style ...... yes it's a bit flawed and I've been working on it for years and I'm getting better but ..... I'm honest and sometimes to get the impact you want you can't sugar coat it or the message isn't taken as seriously -- fortunately I'm working on getting my point across, but being gentle at the ame time. I'm a human -- I didn't come to education perfect and neither did your child's teacher -- they are learning as the years go and sometimes you get a teacher that learns from her mistakes and improves over time, sometimes you get a "naturally" good teacher and sometimes you get a teacher who is who she is and probably won't change -- as I think of my colleagues I know who fits in each of those categories -- I try to learn from my mistakes -- the teacher next door to me -- well..... I wouldn't put my own child in her class..... but I'm not in charge of whether she stays or goes and in my mind if the administrator isn't aware of this then its not my job to tattle -- besides they do know as many parents have complained to them and I've worked with this person on softening what she says -- I've even rescued a few kids from her lectures.

The staff at your child's school know who the "difficult" teachers are -- ask that your child not be placed in those rooms in the upcoming year. If your child is new to a school ask the secretary not to place your kid in the room of the teacher that gets chronic parent complaints. Next -- VOLUNTEER at the school .... if you are an insider ..... you'll know which teachers to avoid and which ones to cherish.

Listen I know teacher have to deal with alot of children.
I had a meeting withe principal & teacher. The principal apologized for what happened to my son. The teacher gave dirty looks and had nothing to say. If she knew she did nothing wrong, she had every chance to explain to me what happend. She did nothing! Another teacher saw my son in the closet and pulled him out. 3 kids did no do there homework that day. 2 where sent to the hallway, my son was put in the closet. Why my son?

If you don't like my expressions. You really do not have to read it.

It sounds as if you have a history of misunderstandings when it comes to your communication skills. Perhaps you should evaluate your intentions before expressing your opinions.

I never once implied that this particular parent had a liar for a child. "Consider the source" means exactly that consider the source -- we are all parents and I wouldn't expect to have to tell a parent what they should do. Even the most well spoken child sometimes takes things out of context or gets it twisted in their minds or perceives it differently then the teacher meant it to be perceived. I just think that if we are posting on this sight and giving advice both sides needs to be considered and let me put it bluntly .... their isn't a lack of parental point of view to these posts ..... a teacher should get to say to you what many won't say and that is sometimes kids go home with an inaccurate perception -- there are 2 sides to every story. I'm not saying it's a wrong perception, but sometimes not the complete story -- they are kids and have short attention spans and don't always have it clearly in their mind by the time they get home.

Teachers also need to learn to be more thoughtful in what they say -- during my younger years as a teacher, before I became a parent I said things to kids in an honest manner -- not realizing how they would be perceived by kids or how a kid would go about telling it to their parents. One time I said to the class(being naive) -- "you'll be very sorry if you don't do your homework." In the context of the conversation we would be having a special activity for those that finished their homework & I was trying to encourage them to do their homework, because if they missed out they would feel sorry about it. We'll that comment got taken out of context -- and the parent went to the principal and the principal pulled me into the office where I had to explain the situation & its context. The child told the parent that I threatened the child and that I said I would hurt the child if she didn't do her homework. I could tell you several other scenarios where similar misperceptions occurred and it's why I'll never teach third graders again (very literal minded). Almost every year I had a kid go home and tell their parents something I would of never said in my dreams much less in reality.

If I seem to err on the side of the teacher it is for 2 reasons 1) that side needs to be told and heard 2) I'm that teacher that has been misunderstood, who goes to work everyday because I LOVE your kid and when your kid goes home and tells you something that PISSES you off please come to me and talk to me about it. Don't go to the principal as the first line of defense. I don't go to work each day thinking about how I can "SCARE" your kid. I ask myself how I can help your kid be the best he/she can be and sometimes what I say gets misunderstood.

I totally agree with you, daisyannmae! It's wonderful that you have such a great relationship with your child! I am a firm believer that the PARENT MUST BE AN ADVOCATE FOR THEIR CHILD. GOOD JOB! Your child is lucky to have a parent so involved in his life. There are many that are not and have to deal with the negative teaching habits on their own.

I absolutely considered the source. My son has never given me reason to not believe him. We have a very open, honest communicative relationship. He is very mature for his nine years, and very advanced in his studies. He has been taught a high standard of ethics. I have never heard of my son saying anything that was not the truth about me or anyone else. Plus, other students had the EXACT same story. In my opinion, I believe that most teachers would like to imagine classrooms filled with warmth, compassion and a desire for teaching. But lets face it, for the most part that just isn't't the case!!! My son's school is filled with a lot of people who just don't care about the students. They are there for a job and that is all. In their frustration they lash out at the students. How is a child supposed to learn when they are forced to listen to the teacher scream and yell. I'm not talking about raising their voice, but flat-out screaming. Most of the teaching time is spent that way, and when a child gets behind they have to do class work in the twenty five minutes they have for lunch and don't get to eat. How can these children even WANT to learn??? These are things I have seen with MY OWN EYES!!!!!!!! I often wonder what goes on when parents aren't't there. So, as for now I will continue to believe my son!!

Kennysmom, it seems as if you always err on the side of teachers without knowing the students or parents involved. I can understand that you might take these commets regarding teachers personally, because you are a teacher. However, it's always good to keep an open mind as a teacher too and look at both sides of a situation.

kennysmom,
You say not to ignore it, but don't say what TO do. Consider the source? I'm pretty sure daisyannmae DID consider the source. I'm guessing that if her child was a chronic liar, she might doubt him. The fact that it wasn't just HER son, but other students involved as well.

It isn't easy for a lot of kids to "tattle" on their teachers. It would be devastating to not take them seriously.

I can tell you that sometimes what kids hear isn't what the teacher meant. I wonder how parents would feel if teachers took seriosly everything children said about their parents & other family members .... sometimes it's important to consider the source ... I'm not saying ignore it .... but begin looking at the situation to see if you as the adult can see what your child is saying. I've had students go home and twist what I said in class ..... I had to explain the situation and later it was discovered that the child was mad at me because I made her stay in at recess so she went home and "tattled". I think sometimes we teach our kids to "get" our attention so they do it.

At my son's school the teachers are held in high regard, too. There have been many instances that I have personally witnessed. The staff (teachers as well as the support staff) scream, yell, cuss, and make fun of the students. My son's teacher last year took it upon herself to tell her third grade class about the VA Tech shooting and how someone might come in and kill them. The next day she told them about a little girl who was burned up in a school fire because she had her shoes off and the teacher left her in the class to put them on. When I called the school the took my son to the office and told him he was a liar and the teacher didn't say those things. I called the school board, but they wouldn't do anything. I later found out that at least two other parents had went with the same story. All in all the teachers and staff get by with just about anything there.

I taught school for 24 years and have gotten out of the classroom for many reasons. I find it difficult to understand why any teacher would put your child in a closet for not finishing homework. I also find it difficult to understand allowing bullying in the form of name calling. I would suggest going to the media. That usually gets the attention needed to resolve something like this. I do have to disagree with your statement about teachers being treated like gold and teachers treating children as if they were nothing. That has not been my experience at all. Good luck with this. I would make lots of public noise on this one.

You're welcome ..... I just didn't want that to come back and bite someone in the backside later on.

Cooldad, thank you for being clear when you stated that you should ASK if you could tape record the session. I am a strong believer in documenting everything in order to protect your child. Do not give up Natelykim. Your child should always be safe at school with the teachers! It is their job to educate children while maintaining a nurturing,safe,and caing environment.

If you record a teacher during a "visit" you legally must inform them of this or your "recording" is not admissible as evidence of misconduct and that includes cell phone voice recorders, photos, etc. Not to mention you become liable if you violate another students publicity rights if you do this in the classroom.

I am NOT denying or downplaying what you experienced. But please know that it will be YOU who has to prove what occurred. The school AND school department will not rat itself out.

Volunteer in the classroom OFTEN. Have a family member volunteer, too. Particularly grandparents. Be sure to have a cell phone, which hopefully has a voice recorder and camera, and do not be afraid to use it. As the guardian of the child, you have a RIGHT to document anything and anyone who is abusive to your child in ANY location.

Get involved in the PTA. Get involved with other parents. Get other parents involved - even the racist ones, if you can. While children do learn racism at home, they also can learn it outside the home. Also, children will use ANY method to torment each other - kids just DO this. Kids will also tend to bend under peer pressure - often to avoid being bullied by another child. So the "racist" parents may not be the root cause of the problem.

DOCUMENT everything in writing. Send everything CERTIFIED to the Superintendent and CC the teacher, Principal and Department of Education [whatever it may be called in your state].

For faster documentation, get the email addresses for these folks and email them EVERY time your child mentions even the SLIGHTEST problem in class. Be sure to also email the teacher. Then send the emails to the Superintendent, Principal and Dept of Education demanding a written response within 24 hours. If you do not get a written response in that time frame - RE-EMAIL them letting them know they "failed to respond" and demand an IMMEDIATE written reply by email. [Email speeds the process - and can be used to show a lack of response by the school/school system.] Armed with a solid - and maybe long - paper trail, attorneys are more willing to take on the matter. If it gets that far.

Bring a third party with you to EVERY meeting - it is your RIGHT. Bring a tape recorder - and ASK if you can record the meeting - they will never say yes [but it is so much fun to watch them squirm]. You could do what I did ONCE - hire a court reporter to attend the meeting and transcribe the ENTIRE meeting! The Principal threatened to call off the meeting - I reminded her that I had the RIGHT to record all of the details of our meeting and was simply excercising my right. The meeting went my way with little resistance. SURPRISE!!!

People who bully children will also bully adults. DO NOT let them bully you.

I went to the board meetings.

in reply to the member of the Burlingame , Californis School Board. You can contact Assemblyman Weisenbergs office in Albany and ask for mrs. curly, Call Lawrence School Superintendents office of Lawrence School district(15). You can verify with them if it is so hard to believe. There is a shotage of teachers because the pay is not attractive. Bad, or good teacher they can not lose.they are more concerned with keeping a teacher then dealing with this type of abuse.

As a member of the school board in Burlingame, California, I am appalled to hear this story. If your School Board is not responding to your report, you have no choice but to take legal action. In California, child abuse like this is one of the few ways we can get rid of a tenured teacher. I find it hard to believe the same is not true in New York.

Good luck.

Does the teacher have tenure or something????

Perhaps an article in the local paper would get things moving! You could also attend the School Board's meeting and publicly address this.

I've actually notified the principal of an impending interview with the paper and got LOTS of response to my complaint. They don't like the bad press.

Child protective services visits families if there are signs of abuse. They have no jurisdiction to visit schools. I called already. i called the police and they said it was a civil matter. I called Assembly man Weibergs office and they said it would cost NY state thousands of dollars to have a teacher removed.They will not proceed with the removal for this type of abuse. If the teacher sexually or touched a child improperly then the state will get involved.

I'm glad you've made a choice to help your son!!! I would continue seeking a way to get the teacher out of the school -- better yet everyone above the teacher as well, since they are just letting it happen because they don't want to spend the mney doing it.

You are so Right!

I called Child protective services. they only visit families. Schools are not there jurisdiction. The police stated it is a cvil matter. When it comes to schools nobody wants to get involved. Harvey Weisenberg office stated it would cost thousands of dollars to have the teacher removed and they will not use those funds for that type of abuse, as per Commisoner Mills of the NY state education Dept. If my son was sexually abuse then they would possibly step in and take action

My just enrolled my son in private school. Which I can not afford. I rather walk around with holes in my shoes and decay in my mouth before I allow the abuse of school Ditrict 15 to continue and scar my son for life.

I thought of that as well!!

I would take it to the news media... Big time!!!

Call child protective services. Teachers aren't allowed to abuse kids any more then parents are -- I just think sometimes parents feel helpless because of the perceived authorit teacher s have. You don't have to deny your child an education for them to be safe -- look into other alternatives -- homeschool, new school whatever it takes.

Yes, I have been there as well.
I have been told that I can not be in my son's classroom because I will distract him more.
I have been told that I can not announce my rights on school property.
I have received dirty looks when I announced that my family is not Christian (I told them this because my son got into trouble for not singing a Christmas song about Jesus, and got into trouble for announcing that he does not believe in Santa).
I have been told that my son is a troublemaker because he is an only child.
I have also been told that my son has a bad attitude because we do not punish him properly within the home.

Yeah, pretty degrading.... I am glade that I am majoring in Speech Communications and know how to turn such fallacies around. Every time I did, they ended up gaping like a fish and not knowing what to say next.
My son will be in a different school next year, and I am hoping that this school will be better and the staff will act like adults instead of the blame game.

Monica *~

I agree, file a criminal report for abuse and negligence. Is there anyone who had witnessed this, or maybe other students that have had this same kind of treatment? If so, then you will have other parents backing you up.

Another thing is to look into placing him into a different school. On top of that, write a letter of complaint to the Superintendent of the school district, they need to know what is going on.

Good Luck!

Monica *~

The cops often seem to try to get out of doing their job, perhaps a bigger fish to fry thing? (at least from what I've personally experienced and seen firsthand). But you have the right to file a criminal report for abuse and negligence, you may just need to be really assertive (yet polite & respectful).

Taking it to court may be a civil matter, which is why I suggested an using an attorney's free consult for some quick advice. But seeing as how your son was mistreated, you should be able to file a police report. Since the police were uncooperative, perhaps mentioning this to the attorney is a good idea.

Some lawyers will do a quick consult over the phone if they have the time.

I went to the police the day it happened & the detective on duty stated it was a civil matter

I suggest getting specific details from your child and writing them down. Dates and times of every incidence if possible. Go to the school and ask your child to show you the closet, and if you can, take a photo of the closet.

Then, go to the police. This is not something that you should have to cut through red tape about. Go directly to the police and file a child abuse report.

Talk to an attorney, and if necessary, try to find one who will take your case pro bono.

Also, because the teachers are in question and the admin isn't doing anything, I suggest you remove your child from that school immediately so as not to allow further harm, mental, emotional or physical to occur.

I wish you the best.

I normally wouldn't jump on the legal train so quickly, but abuse is serious and needs to be stopped in it's tracks. And you really should talk to an attorney at least for a free consultation to get more advice on how to proceed, at the very least. I'd be filing charges and a law suit, but that's me. At least get legal advice.

Children have no rights! I have contacted NY State Education, Commissoner Mills, Assembly man Weisenberg and My son's School Board. I have seen no results. I can not understand why childrens right are violated by school officals and it is ok.

Where do you go to get results when you know your child civil rights are being threaten?

I feel your pain. They even bully the parents. My child's principal, asked me to leave her school because I wanted answers as to why she was not doing well.